R. D. Laing and Aaron Esterson
Sanity, Madness and the Family:
Families of Schizophrenics
(April 1964)
Sixtieth anniversary reflections
A third subseries (fifteen seminars) on Laing and Esterson’s eleven families
Historically researched by Anthony Stadlen
Explored in film by Yaara Sumeruk
In memoriam Hilary Mantel:
‘The simple words the people speak’
1. Introductory seminar
Why is this book still not understood?
Anthony Stadlen Yaara Sumeruk
conduct by Zoom
Inner Circle Seminar No. 290
Sunday 16 June 2024
10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
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| R. D. Laing 7 October 1927 – 23 August 1989 |
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| Aaron Esterson 23 September 1923 – 15 April 1999 |
Adrian Laing Anthony Stadlen Hilary Mantel
Inner Circle Seminar No. 205
Sanity, Madness and the Family: Families of Schizophrenics
1. Maya Abbott and the Abbotts
50 years on
(Durrants Hotel, London, Sunday 6 July 2014.)
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| Deborah Fosbrook Adrian Laing Anthony Stadlen Hilary Mantel |
Sanity, Madness and the Family: Families of Schizophrenics
1. Maya Abbott and the Abbotts
50 years on
(Durrants Hotel, London, Sunday 6 July 2014.)
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| Yaara Sumeruk |
Hilary Mantel and Anthony Stadlen conducted Inner Circle Seminar No. 205, Laing and Esterson, Sanity, Madness and the Family: Families of Schizophrenics. 1. Maya Abbott and the Abbotts, 50 years on, at Durrants Hotel, London, Sunday 6 July 2014.
Hilary Mantel had just been made a Dame in the Queen’s Birthday Honours. The date of the seminar, 6 July, was also her own birthday. The message on the cake reads: ‘Happy Birthday Dame Hilary’.
For more information:
https://anthonystadlen.blogspot.com/2013/12/laing-esterson-1-abbotts-50-years-on.html
This seemingly straightforward book is still not understood today, especially by ‘professionals’.
But the late Dame Hilary Mantel, who gained courage to become a novelist through reading it when she was nearly twenty-one, understood it. She urged readers: ‘Just read the simple words the people speak.’
In a series of twelve seminars starting ten years ago in 2014 we had a unique opportunity actually to hear and discuss with Hilary Mantel herself ‘the simple words the people speak’, from Dr Aaron Esterson’s tape-recordings of his conversations with the families in the late 1950s and early 1960s, and from Anthony Stadlen’s reports and recordings of his 21st-century conversations with surviving members of the family. (All identifying features, such as names, were of course deleted.)
In her first Reith lecture of 2017 Hilary Mantel discussed the relation between the historical novelist and the historian.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jun/03/hilary-mantel-why-i-became-a-historical-novelist
She brought to our seminars the unique genius of an historical novelist who saw more profoundly than the rest of us the implications of the known historical facts but did not present invention as history. Each seminar began with her wonderful reflections on what is given in the text of the book. She had no privileged access to the cases. She learned what Stadlen had discovered as an historian only as did the other seminar participants, when he reported or played recordings of his interviews with some of the supposedly ‘schizophrenic’ women and many of their surviving relatives in the twenty-first century, and explored Esterson’s original library of tape-recordings on which the book is based.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jun/03/hilary-mantel-why-i-became-a-historical-novelist
She brought to our seminars the unique genius of an historical novelist who saw more profoundly than the rest of us the implications of the known historical facts but did not present invention as history. Each seminar began with her wonderful reflections on what is given in the text of the book. She had no privileged access to the cases. She learned what Stadlen had discovered as an historian only as did the other seminar participants, when he reported or played recordings of his interviews with some of the supposedly ‘schizophrenic’ women and many of their surviving relatives in the twenty-first century, and explored Esterson’s original library of tape-recordings on which the book is based.
Nine of the original eleven women diagnosed schizophrenic are now dead; but Mantel recalled W. H. Auden:
... the crack in the teacup opensA lane to the land of the dead.
She could have also have quoted T. S. Eliot:
And what the dead had no speech for, when living,They can tell you, being dead: the communicationOf the dead is tongued with fire beyond the language of the living.
Why is this nowadays rarely read or even referenced book of 1964 so important? It is, after all, absent from almost all discussions either of ‘the family’ or of ‘schizophrenia’. The extremely rare discussions of it patronise it, as if they had long passed beyond it; but without having begun to understand it, let alone catch up with it.
And yet it is so simple.
It is true that R. D. Laing and Aaron Esterson’s research, reported in this masterpiece of 1964 and continued by Esterson in his profound The Leaves of Spring: A Study in the Dialectics of Madness (1970), was a concrete embodiment of the complex theoretical work of their most advanced and radical contemporaries of the 1960s: Jean-Paul Sartre’s Critique of Dialectical Reason; Thomas Szasz’s The Myth of Mental Illness; and Martin Heidegger and Medard Boss’s Zollikon Seminars (although these were only published much later, and Laing and Esterson knew only Boss’s and Heidegger’s earlier work).
Sartre wrote in praise of Laing’s work on families. Szasz respected Esterson and thought Stadlen’s later research following up the eleven families important. Heidegger would probably have liked the book, though it is unlikely he knew it. It embodies that straightforward openness and humanity he tried to convey in his Zollikon seminars, though he might have asked: ‘Why drag in Sartre?’ But almost all self-styled Daseinsanalysts and existential therapists ignore and even disparage Laing and Esterson’s quintessentially existential and phenomenological pioneering work.
Yet the book is essentially simple. What did Laing and Esterson say that was so simple: too simple for ‘professionals’ to understand?
‘We believe that the shift of point of view that these descriptions both embody and demand has an historical significance no less radical than the shift from a demonological to a clinical viewpoint three hundred years ago.’Thus they introduced their great phenomenological descriptions of eleven families of ‘schizophrenics’. But, sixty years on, the ‘clinical viewpoint’ still reigns supreme. ‘Existential’, ‘Freudian’, ‘Jungian’, ‘Lacanian’, ‘Laingian’, ‘humanist’, ‘person-centred’ therapists and a galaxy of similarly impressively titled psychoanalysts and psychotherapists love to call themselves ‘clinicians’.
Today people demand ‘parity’ for ‘physical’ and ‘mental health’. This is well-intentioned but mystifying, pseudo-scientific language.
Have Laing and Esterson been proved wrong? They wrote:
‘Nobody can deny us the right to disbelieve in schizophrenia.’Why, then, do most psychiatrists and psychotherapists claim Laing and Esterson said ‘families cause schizophrenia’? They can not have understood, if they have ever remembered, if they have ever read, the first sentences of the second edition (1970) of the book:
‘There have been many studies of mental illness and the family. This book is not of them, at least in our opinion.’Hilary Mantel wrote that ‘the simple words the people speak’ in Laing and Esterson’s book gave her, when twenty years old, the courage to write her own books, which have been internationally acclaimed. Her introductions to the seminars in our previous series that started ten years ago enthralled participants with their sensitive understanding of, and deeply perceptive insight into, each family in turn.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/sep/06/1
As she wrote:
Mantel, at least, had no difficulty understanding what Laing and Esterson were talking about:
‘Some of us need a little push, before we recognise we have the right to pick up a pen. In my case it came from a book by the psychiatrists R. D. Laing and Aaron Esterson, Sanity, Madness and the Family... The people in it seemed close enough to touch... Each interview is a novel or play in miniature. So many of these family conversations seemed familiar to me: their swerves and evasions, their doubleness... For most of my life I had been told that I didn't know how the world worked. That afternoon I decided I did know, after all. In the course of my twenty-one years I'd noticed quite a lot. If I wanted to be a writer, I didn't have to worry about inventing material, I'd already got it. The next stage was just to find some words.’
‘All the patients profiled in the book are young women. I know their names are pseudonyms, but over the years I've wondered desperately what happened to them, and if there's anyone alive who knows, and whether any of them ever cut free from the choking knotweed of miscommunication and flourished on ground of their own: Ruth, who was thought odd because she wore coloured stockings; Jean, who wanted a baby though her whole family told her she didn't; and Sarah, whose breakdown, according to her family, was caused by too much thinking.’Anthony Stadlen, through his historical research, is able to answer some of Hilary Mantel’s questions.
Laing and Esterson wrote:
‘Surely, if we are wrong, it would be easy to show that we are, by studying a few families and revealing that “schizophrenics” really are talking a lot of nonsense after all.’Stadlen accepted this challenge. He studied the very same families they studied. In this third subseries of Inner Circle Seminars devoted to them he will consider each family briefly in turn, focussing on two points:
(1) Is there evidence for the view of the families and the diagnosing psychiatrists (not Laing and Esterson) that the daughters were ‘ill’, though most of the daughters disputed this?
(2) Were the daughters really ‘talking a lot of nonsense after all’?
(3) Would the diagnosing psychiatrists (that is, not Laing or Esterson) have had the moral (as opposed to legal) right to treat these young women compulsorily (as they did) even if they had been ill, or to lock them up (as they did) even if they had talked ‘nonsense’?
We shall also see the 1972 80-minute BBC TV film The Space Between Words: Family, directed by Roger Graef, showing Esterson working with one family.
This will provide an opportunity for the film director Yaara Sumeruk to explain the film she is currently creating and directing, based on Sanity, Madness and the Family and The Leaves of Spring. She had a similar revelation to Hilary Mantel’s when, a few years ago, she too discovered a dog-eared copy of the paperback of the former book, which changed her life. Since 2020 she has been closely collaborating with Anthony Stadlen. She is one of the select few who understands the book. The film she is making does not traduce the book by misrepresenting it or adding to it. On the contrary, it enhances it by strict fidelity to the family interactions recorded in the book, in a way that throws light on their essential structure, sometimes in startling ways.
We shall focus in this first seminar in the subseries particularly on aspects of the way Sanity, Madness and the Family was written which may have contributed to its being misunderstood.
In the second seminar, on 14 July, we shall focus on technical terms introduced by Laing and Esterson which some readers have found difficult to understand.
Then, in the following eleven seminars, at intervals of a few months, we shall focus in turn on the eleven families.
Finally, there will be two retrospective, summarising seminars.
Your contribution to the dialogue will be warmly welcomed.
This will be an online seminar, using Zoom.
Cost: Psychotherapy trainees £140, others £175; reductions for combinations of seminars, for example, the subseries of fifteen seminars on Sanity, Madness of the Family; some bursaries; no refunds or transfers unless seminar cancelled
Apply to: Anthony Stadlen, ‘Oakleigh’, 2A Alexandra Avenue , London N22 7XE
Tel: +44 (0) 7809 433250
E-mail: stadlenanthony@gmail.com
For further information on seminars, visit: http://anthonystadlen.blogspot.com/
The Inner Circle Seminars were founded by Anthony Stadlen in 1996 as an ethical, existential, phenomenological search for truth in psychotherapy. They have been kindly described by Thomas Szasz as ‘Institute for Advanced Studies in the Moral Foundations of Human Decency and Helpfulness’. But they are independent of all institutes, schools, and universities.
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